Bob Sonnenblick – Chairman of Sonnenblick Development chosen by IMN Conferences Inc. to moderate the “Mezzanine Loan & Gap Financing for Real Estate Deals”

PRESS RELEASE: N.Y. Monday Nov 16th, 2020

Los Angeles-based real estate developer and investor, Bob Sonnenblick, the Chairman of Sonnenblick Development LLC., has been chosen by IMN Conferences Inc. to moderate the “Mezzanine Loan & Gap Financing for Real Estate Deals” panel at the upcoming IMN Real Estate Mezz & Distressed Debt Conference on Wednesday November 18th.

Mr. Sonnenblick’s panel will feature interviews and questions with five major national real estate lenders, who are still active today funding projects amidst the “mid-Covid” financial turmoil in the real estate markets.

The webinar/”virtual conference” may be heard live at www.imn.org. or for more info, please call (212)-901-0506

 

Mezzanine Loan Origination Trends in an Uncertain Market Environment & Outlook for Gap Financing

  • Which markets and sectors are most attractive/in need of mezzanine financing at the moment?
  • How have terms and negotiations changed in the past 6 months?
  • Is the market still saturated with too many debt funds originating mezzanine loans?  How has the global health crisis impacted competition?
  • Are we seeing banks starting to move back into the space?
  • What are the outlooks for foreign investment and joint venture financing?
  • What financing is available and favorable for distressed deals across different asset classes?
  • How do terms compare to ground-up development deals?

Bob Sonnenblick Panelist at iGlobal Virtual Forum May 19th

ABOUT THE VIRTUAL EVENT

iGlobal Forum : The Future of CRE Lending Amidst COVID-19 virtual event,   May 19th 2020, at 11am (EST). 

KEY TOPICS

  • How does the number of lenders in the market differ today from when you did your loan then? Are interest rates higher now as a result of the Pandemic/virus?

  • Has underwriting (by lenders) changed over the last 2-3 months?

  • Are lenders being more conservative now because of uncertainty in the market-place?

  • How will lenders size loans and predict cashflow over the next several years given the unknown trajectory of COVID-19

  • Which property types are likely to hold in best and which are likely to experience limited capital availability

 

 

Bob Sonnenblick Panelist at iGlobal Virtual Forum May 7th

This event is past – it was a very informative session – see highlights video:

ABOUT THE VIRTUAL EVENT

iGlobal Forum :The Future of Hospitality & Lodging Amidst Amidst Covid-19,  May 7th 2020

Due to the circumstances that have stopped us from meeting face to face, iGlobal Live brings you an exclusive virtual event to discuss the various trends driving the hospitality and lodging industry.Bringing together the most active participants in the hospitality and lodging space, including institutional and private investors, REITs, investment companies, owners and operators, developers, lenders, brokers, franchisors and franchisees.

Key topics include:

  • Pandemic – the Early Days or “Triage Strategies”
  • Re-Opening and/or Re-launching hotels.
  • Negotiating with Lenders or “Buying Time”.
  • What if I want to sell: What’s the market?
  • How are they pricing and what issues should I expect to have to deal with that are unique to this environment?
  • What does this mean for development?
  • Pandemic – The Recovery Days.

Bob Sonnenblick on Bisnow – Landlords Push Back As California Cities Order Halt To CRE Evictions

March 22, 2020 Joseph Pimentel, Bisnow Los Angeles

As cities across the state halt or prepare to stop commercial evictions to help businesses impacted by the novel coronavirus pandemic, some property owners and landlords are questioning if they will receive relief, too.

Last week, Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego and other cities either passed or are planning to pass some sort of temporary moratorium on evictions for commercial tenants, either because their business has been slowed down or it has been ordered to close to prevent the spread of the coronavirus. Late Sunday, the National Multifamily Housing Council, a lobbying group for the multifamily industry, urged its members to enact 90-day moratoriums on rent for tenants that can show they’ve been impacted by the coronavirus, which causes COVID-19, and asked for a 90-day halt on rent increases.

“We also recognize that most rental properties are owned by individuals and small businesses that have financial obligations, including mortgages, utilities, payroll, insurance and taxes,” the council said in a statement. “If residents cannot pay their full rent obligations because of the COVID-19 outbreak then owners are at risk of not meeting their own financial obligations. This puts the individual property and the larger community in which it is located at risk.”

 

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Sonnenblick Development Chairman Bob Sonnenblick said any moratorium on evictions needs to be done bilaterally so that it benefits both tenants and landlords.

I understand [what the mayors are trying to do] but the problem is when every tenant in the entire city stops paying rent, and the landlords look to their lender and say, ‘I’m not allowed to evict this tenant, Mr. Lender can you please stop asking me to pay my mortgage?’ If the lender says no, as an owner, I’m in big trouble,” Sonnenblick said.

Sonnenblick, who owns office buildings in Los Angeles, isn’t personally affected, because most of his tenants are federal and local government agencies. However, as a building owner, he understands the plight owners and landlords go through if a tenant can’t pay rent.

“This is a two-part structure and solving only half the problem is going to create huge foreclosures when every tenant stops paying rent,” Sonnenblick said. “If the tenants stop paying rent and the owners can’t pay their mortgage, they’ll go into default and the banks are going to foreclose. You’re going to see mass foreclosures across the city.”

“Angelenos who own businesses in our city deserve peace of mind,” Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti said in a statement Tuesday, adding that eligible tenants will have up to three months following the end of the local emergency period to repay any back due rent. “The moratorium will help ease some of the deepest concerns while we get through this crisis together.”

In San Francisco, Mayor London Breed’s moratorium would prevent any small to midsized business that make less than $25M in annual gross receipts from being evicted. The eviction moratorium will be in effect for 30 days starting March 17, and can be extended for another 30 days.

The moratorium evictions on commercial tenants come on the heels of similar moratoriums by those cities to help residential tenants.

San Diego is also drafting an ordinance to halt residential and commercial evictions, which the council will vote on next week. At least 14 cities across the state are weighing similar eviction bans.

The moratorium comes at a time when businesses across the state such as restaurants, bars, nightclubs, quick-serve restaurants, malls and office buildings have either closed or are opening at limited capacity to prevent the spread of the coronavirus. As of Sunday afternoon, California had 1,500 positive coronavirus cases and 27 deaths, according to state health officials.

Under normal state law, municipalities are prohibited from regulating commercial evictions but given the current crisis, Newsom on Monday allowed for it after signing an executive order. But market stakeholders have several questions. Will building landlords, those who retail and office tenants pay, receive relief from banks or credit unions during the moratorium? Can landlords ask for partial rental payments during this period so that they can continue to operate?

Newsom’s executive order asks financial institutions holding home or commercial mortgages to implement a moratorium on foreclosures. It is unclear how cities could enforce that.

“For a lot of these things, the devil is going to be in the details,” Cox, Castle & Nicholson partner Corin Korenaga said. “What we’ve seen to this point are only announcements … Those announcements have just set up a general framework. We haven’t really seen the actual ordinances.”

Korenaga said it is still early, but he and his company have received calls from concerned landlords about this situation. One landlord called asking how he should respond after a commercial tenant told him he wasn’t going to pay rent. “Now, we’re seeing the ripple effects of this,” he said.

Korenaga said it is clear that the moratoriums are not deferring rent payments. “Tenants remain obligated to pay rent during the moratorium,” Korenaga said. “Landlords simply cannot evict during the moratorium.”

Landlords and property owners have questioned the mayors move especially since, so far, they are not seeing any relief. Though landlords agree that this is an unprecedented time and want to support their tenants, the moratoriums don’t relieve them of their duties to pay rent. Landlords also have to pay a mortgage and other workers servicing that building.

“Legally, the city can do it,” Rising Realty Partners CEO Chris Rising said of the moratoriums. “But this absolutely does not relieve a tenant from their rent obligation. They have a lease. The order doesn’t deal with a landlords ability to service their mortgage or pay people in the buildings to perform services if there are tenants who cannot pay rent. So there are a lot of unanswered questions.”

Rising, whose companies own and manage a $1.5B portfolio totaling 5M SF of commercial real estate in Southern California and Denver, said restaurants and bars in his buildings have been hit the hardest.

“I know some of them have been able to switch to takeout and delivery only, but they are not going to see the same amount of volume that they had before,” Rising said.

Sonnenblick Development Chairman Bob Sonnenblick said any moratorium on evictions needs to be done bilaterally so that it benefits both tenants and landlords.

I understand [what the mayors are trying to do] but the problem is when every tenant in the entire city stops paying rent, and the landlords look to their lender and say, ‘I’m not allowed to evict this tenant, Mr. Lender can you please stop asking me to pay my mortgage?’ If the lender says no, as an owner, I’m in big trouble,” Sonnenblick said.

Sonnenblick, who owns office buildings in Los Angeles, isn’t personally affected, because most of his tenants are federal and local government agencies. However, as a building owner, he understands the plight owners and landlords go through if a tenant can’t pay rent.

“This is a two-part structure and solving only half the problem is going to create huge foreclosures when every tenant stops paying rent,” Sonnenblick said. “If the tenants stop paying rent and the owners can’t pay their mortgage, they’ll go into default and the banks are going to foreclose. You’re going to see mass foreclosures across the city.”

For Rising, he understands what his tenants are going through and plans to support them, and April 1 is right around the corner. He plans to speak with his tenants and his lenders to see how they can work through this.

“Everyone is so universally affected,” Rising said. “This isn’t like the tech boom and bust. This is a national emergency. Everyone is talking about how this compares to post-9/11. But this is not like 9/11. We are in a time of war. But we’re going against this virus and doing things that have never been done.”

2020 Vision Lodging Industry Executives Look Ahead During BITAC® Owners Event

From left, Bloss, Gould, Sonnenblick, Nessler, Broughton and Thornros.

The prolonged lodging cycle, continuing consolidation, the rapid growth of home sharing and rising operating costs were among the key topics discussed by executives at the BITAC® Owners event earlier this week.

Taking place at the Grand Hyatt Baha Mar in The Bahamas, the executives spoke on a panel entitled “2020 Vision: What Lies Ahead For The Lodging Industry.”

Robert Sonnenblick, Chairman, Sonnenblick Development, LLC, sounded a note of caution when talking about the current economic cycle.
“I’m a great believer in cycles. If all of us are honest with ourselves cycles always have happened; we go up, we go down. This is the longest run of upcycle we’ve ever had and the longer the run the more apt we are to be facing that downward run and that actually scares me,” he said.

Roger Bloss, president, Alternative Hospitality, agreed while voicing concern about supply. “From a hoteliers standpoint I think we’ve pushed it as far as we can push it. I think we’ve put about as many rooms on some of those corners as we can. You look at these markets that five years ago everybody just wanted to be in and they went in and now there’s a lot of inventory,” he noted.

David Gould, president, hospitality division, Moody National Companies, offered a generally positive outlook but also expressed concern about the level of inventory.
“I think we still have some upside and opportunity for a little bit of rate growth, but eventually supply is going to catch up to us. The good news is the hoteliers of today have been through 2009 and we figured it out. We might have some rough spots but all in all we’re going to come out on the other side,” he noted.

Larry Broughton, CEO, Broughton Hotels, characterized it as “market by market” but also expressed a bit of optimism going forward. “I am bullish, I think we’re going to see another 12 months of modest RevPAR growth,” he stated.

Martin Thornros, principal, Convergent Services, observed some fundamental differences in the current cycle. “I think cycles are part of life, but this cycle we’re seeing lot of different and more selective development. We’re also seeing a lot more upper-upscale hotels as opposed to normally in this point in the cycle,” he said.

Meanwhile, a wave of merger and acquisition activity in recent years has dramatically altered the lodging landscape. According to the executives, there are a number of consequences that come along with that.

Sonnenblick expressed his concern.
“I actually think a lot of these consolidations are bad for our industry. Consolidation means less competition and to me less competition is always bad…When you get too big it’s hard to operate individual properties. Maybe that creates opportunities for people who buy from them but to me these big conglomerates are not good for our industry,” he commented.

Thornros, whose company provides IT solutions, brought to light another issue.
“I think it’s a huge issue with consolidation causing brand standards to be pushed through properties where it makes no sense at all and we’re seeing more and more of that,” he said.

Broughton acknowledged the perils of consolidation while also recognizing the potential opportunity. “The larger we get with a lot of this consolidation we’re going back to that era when it’s just bland product and that’s what scares me….I’m a little bit nervous about it but it does create opportunity. There are going to be the individual owners and investors who want personalized service so there’s going to be opportunity for the smaller management companies, I believe,” he said.

“I think the consolidation of the management companies is a benefit to us. When we’re smaller we’re more attractive to the general managers because they’re not just a number,” agreed Gould.

The executives acknowledged that the home sharing industry, particularly companies such as Airbnb, have impacted traditional hotels to varying degrees.

Sonnenblick, for his part, believes the impact has been minimal.
“This is going to sound funny, and this is probably the opposite of what everybody reads in the newspapers, but Airbnb to me is a very minor percentage of our mainstream industry. It’s far less than 10 percent,” he said.

Bloss, however, commented, “I think it’s bigger than anybody realizes.”
He continued, “you’ve got the big brands like Marriott going in so you know it’s going to have all the things we’re accustomed to and it’s not going away,” he asserted.

Broughton cited development as another area of concern pointing out that rules often change in municipalities as it relates to home sharing.
“What scares me about the whole home sharing thing is how I see developers that are trying to take an apartment building and ‘Airbnb it.’ We’ve been approached dozens of times to do that and I try to talk them out of it,” he noted.

In addition, labor costs continue to be a constant challenge for owners and operators, particularly in the wake of minimum wage increases in a number of states.

“I may be hypersensitive being in California, but the labor costs are ridiculous. When you’re paying dishwashers 20 bucks an hour what does the rest of your pay scale look like? When you’re looking at a 45 percent labor cost you’re economics change so you better be able to drive RevPAR,” said Broughton.

However, the panelists went on to point out that labor is just one cost challenge for properties.

“The biggest cost is when it’s time to renovate and the extent to which you have to renovate. That’s what usually hits us the hardest, but at the same time you also have brands coming up with different things you need to implement. For example, ‘now we have a new lobby so you have to do the new lobby by 2020’ even though it’s out of cycle,” said Gould.

Energy costs, particularly in California, also represent a significant expense, according to the panelists.

Bloss talked about his current project in Desert Hot Springs specifically.
“We went to the extreme in California to build wells, solar, and turbine. The only way we can really see ourselves sustaining these costs long term is to put money in on the front end… They’ve [California] already shut the power and they’ve shut the water off in the past, I need both of those things to survive,” he said, adding the company spent some 17 million dollars to drill the well.

Broughton added of the energy costs, “those are things we see month after month. It’s monthly operating costs that can just suck the value out of a property.”

Sonnenblick asserted that the aforementioned operating costs are part of why limited-service options are appealing to more and more owners.
“Ninety-five percent of the new builds in the hotel business are limited service so instead of having 40 employees we have four. Even when labor goes crazy it may not affect us,” he noted.

PRESS RELEASE: New York, 10-11-2019 IMN Conf

IMN Conferences Inc has announced that Los Angeles-based real estate developer Bob Sonnenblick, Chairman of Sonnenblick Development LLC, has joined their keynote Finance Panel to speak at the upcoming Real Estate & Mezzanine Debt Conference to be held in New York City on November 7th at The Union League Club on East 37th Street.

2:20 PM Borrowers’ Perspective Discussion

 

  • Where are the opportunities for the year ahead? Which markets and what deal types are you pursuing?
  • What is the availability of capital (both debt and equity) in the current market?
  • Who is financing your deals? Banks, insurance companies, CMBS, debt funds or other specialty finance companies?
  • What projects are you looking to finance with mezzanine and other subordinated debt?
  • What market factors are keeping you up at night?

November 2019 IMN Speakers